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Title: Game of Thrones (book 1) by George R.R. Martin
Post by: Darkon on June 11, 2016, 10:10:55 AM
Started reading Game of Thrones by George R.R. Martin. Which is a far easier read than Terry Brooks' Wizard at Large (http://www.hallofworlds.info/all-seasons-reading/wizard-at-large-by-terry-brooks/).

It does seem to contain an awful lot of characters and plenty of incest. And some curious lines such as "I am going to break fast" instead of "I'm going for breakfast".

Haven't read more than the first 100 pages.

Spoiler: show

Bran was tossed of the wall, thereby becoming a cripple. Jon Snow said goodbye, and Bran's bitchy mother had a hissy fit. And I just had the scene where the dragon house girl married the horse king and they had sex in the field.


Not sure what I think of this book yet. I get why it's popular, it has sex and its strongest suit is the political intrigue, backstabbing and what not that also made The Empire series of Feist and Wurts a favourite among many Feist fans.

The entire atmosphere hasn't really sucked me in yet. In that regard I thought Scott Lynch did a better job.

In conclusion: so far so good, but I have yet to finish this book and make up my mind about it.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones (book 1) by George R.R. Martin
Post by: Darkon on June 19, 2016, 11:51:22 PM
Alright, I have finished the book. And all in all I quite enjoyed it. Unfortunately I don't own a sequel, so for the time being this will be all GRRM I will read, but I found him much better than Terry Brooks! His story too has its cliches but his characters are better worked out.

The trickiness of GRRM I find that he basically writes a history of a land with all the political intrigue, wars, and medieval setbacks (disease, etc.), but the POVs that alternate make you as a reader root for certain characters. Only to find out later they're not going to make it. The book requires some distancing to not get overly attached to certain characters.

And there's plenty of characters about, that should a POV character die, then GRRM can easily switch in another one until it has lived out its usefulness for the overall story.

For the story this is great, but it makes me love the characters less than I could have. Which is a pity.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones (book 1) by George R.R. Martin
Post by: James on June 20, 2016, 12:18:01 AM
The real trick was him making people think that no characters are safe.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones (book 1) by George R.R. Martin
Post by: Myddrun on June 20, 2016, 01:07:59 PM
Only to find out later they're not going to make it.

 >:)  :jester:

I read book one after the first series. I found it quite heavy going to be honest not because I found it hard to read but because of the sheer number of named characters. I must go back to them now I have a better idea on who everyone is.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones (book 1) by George R.R. Martin
Post by: Darkon on June 20, 2016, 01:30:26 PM

I read book one after the first series. I found it quite heavy going to be honest not because I found it hard to read but because of the sheer number of named characters. I must go back to them now I have a better idea on who everyone is.

You saw the HBO show you mean?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones (book 1) by George R.R. Martin
Post by: Myddrun on June 24, 2016, 02:17:16 PM

I read book one after the first series. I found it quite heavy going to be honest not because I found it hard to read but because of the sheer number of named characters. I must go back to them now I have a better idea on who everyone is.

You saw the HBO show you mean?

Series / show. TV - Yeah. I knew about the books before but at the time to invest to read them but watching it got me hooked.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones (book 1) by George R.R. Martin
Post by: Darkon on June 24, 2016, 04:49:42 PM
Having read just the first book and not seen the show, I understand that the show and the books at some point deviate from each other?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones (book 1) by George R.R. Martin
Post by: Aurian on June 24, 2016, 09:01:03 PM
The TV series has already passed the books, so they're making it up as the go pretty much.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones (book 1) by George R.R. Martin
Post by: James on June 25, 2016, 03:27:38 AM
Martin has told the creators the direction the series takes and how it ends though. Whether they follow that is another story.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones (book 1) by George R.R. Martin
Post by: Ghuda on December 22, 2017, 12:15:34 PM
It seems to suffering in both the recent books and show....I don't think George knows how to get to the end