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« on: August 10, 2007, 09:33:06 PM »

Hey all, having just read the sad news that the hall chat is dead im starting to get a bit worried. No matter how much people deny otherwise the hall  is on a major decline, every morning i sit at my pc and the first site i visit is the hall, having been a member for over a year im hardly a veteran and i remember being given quite a difficult ride by the existing members (i wont mention the two girls in question) and i have to say this place became like a second home for me, yet now..with quite a few friends having left, this place dosent feel the same..why?
Im sure people will say this is complete bollocks but even the guy who killed chat has left, and i dont blame him one bit. Unless we start making an effort to resurect the community that once thrived here i dont think his place can survive much longer. So basicaly we need to pull our bloody fingers out.
If anyone is out there please discuss.

And suprise suprise no-one is currently on line.
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« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2007, 10:06:22 PM »

The community is in a pretty bad state, ya, due to staff problems and a little past bitterness between some members. I think things have cindered a good bit with the board members though. At least, I don't have any bad feelings towards anyone. Not sure what people think of me and I probably don't what to know, but whatever. Sure people have different chat rooms, but so what? It's just for different discussions. We're still okay.

Basically, the only problem I see is the staff and REF's work. Two key things, but heh...what do they matter?
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« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2007, 10:09:06 PM »

Edit: I don't want to be a part of this debate.
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« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2007, 10:09:30 PM »

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The community is in a pretty bad state, ya, due to staff problems and a little past bitterness between some members. I think things have cindered a good bit with the board members though. At least, I don't have any bad feelings towards anyone. Not sure what people think of me and I probably don't what to know, but whatever. Sure people have different chat rooms, but so what? It's just for different discussions. We're still okay.

Basically, the only problem I see is the staff and REF's work. Two key things, but heh...what do they matter?
The obviously matter a whole lot, i mean im sure we chatted feist a bit, but it wasnt much. Feist brought us here but the members kept us here. And i dont have any bad feelings towards anyone, even z
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« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2007, 10:22:03 PM »

I can't really agree about the new members problem, Al (unless your including like everyone from the new site). If anything, I think we're severely lacking in new members.
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« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2007, 10:23:51 PM »

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I can't really agree about the new members problem, Al (unless your including like everyone from the new site). If anything, I think we're severely lacking in new members.
oh yeh i agree we need more members, but we need the current members to post a bit more, myself included.
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« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2007, 10:24:56 PM »

Edit: I don't want to be a part of this debate.
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« Reply #7 on: August 10, 2007, 10:25:49 PM »

Ah well...i've always continued to post whenever i've been able. Whether people like it or not is another matter. We need some fresh new topics to bring in a bit of discussion.

And where the hell is bats?!
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« Reply #8 on: August 10, 2007, 10:48:41 PM »

i'm still a regular, but just don't post often. i don't have any beef with anyone, but after being here for, what, 5 or 6 years, i kindof have the feeling that i've seen every possible thread out there. also, i haven't read any Feist in years. i still post my whereabouts every now and then, and when i'm hungover or wasted, i still let you kids know
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« Reply #9 on: August 10, 2007, 10:55:43 PM »

*steps out of the shadow*

Look what you've done! Made me delurk!

On a more serious note, I do believe Al's not far off from the truth here. However I'm certain that's not all to it.

Don't know about the rest of you, but after being a student for a long time, I got to the point where free time became quite a bit less. So much that there are days where I wonder what the heck happened to the good old student life that appeared to have seas of time asking to be wasted. I can't believe I used to think there was a high workload for study. Either way, I believe they call it 'having a life'. Which requires me to do Internships that are 5 days a week from 08.00 to 18.00 excluding travelling time, night and weekendshifts. (All unpaid) The rest of the time must be spend to study as a horrible subjective exam dooms on the horizon. (yay more stress!)

So yeah, that's my excuse for absence.

In the weekends I tend to lurk, sometimes talk (ask GO) in #feist chat. I certainly appreciate my weekendly dosis of talk with GO or Al (if he's awake and not drunk, although I don't see him in #feist). * Depending on how much time I can spare. I also try to read new posts on the HoW daily. Eventhough my primary reason to be active ceased to exist long ago. Apart from that there's the folks from the HoW I have on msn.

As for the HoW, it needs a redo. The website, forum, rules on spam, everything. Having a few of those games like we had on WoF wouldn't be too bad either. Which means someone with enthusiasm and time to spend on such a thing needs to get it done. I sure as heck don't have the time for it anymore, but maybe one of the 'younger ones' does.

Perhaps making our sci-fi board grow more next to REF wouldn't be a bad idea. Let's not forget that when looking for info on feist or fantasy writers, the choice to wiki it is easily made. To survive, you have to rethink your strategies every once in a while. It'll keep the newbies coming and the oldbies a refreshing change of threads to post in. One of the best points of this place has been its international character. Something of which I think should be treasured and well-fed for many more years to come.

Newbies are needed as much as you need children when the older generation dies. As long as you raise them well, nothing wrong with them.

If our admins don't have the time to do all the required things themselves to stop neglect, then at least they should guide enthusiastic others in getting things done for them in a constructive way. Not that difficult, happens in real life all the time.

I think I had a point somewhere in all this, but I lost it and I'm feeling way too tired. Anyway, I'm off to get some decent sleep. There's a weekendshift waiting for me tomorrow. So, Night!

Edit: * And my Naruto discussion with Althalus, how could I forget them?  
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« Reply #10 on: August 10, 2007, 11:04:07 PM »

GreatOne = new guy IMO



Its been years since I  loved this place honestly, I still enjoy visiting, but I do so maybe once in 4 days not several times a day like I used to, and I don't feel the sense of community I once did. I used to play the spam games just for the fun of playing with my friends but now I don't see the point.

I read the news threads and skin JC.
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« Reply #11 on: August 10, 2007, 11:12:58 PM »

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GreatOne = new guy IMO



Its been years since I  loved this place honestly, I still enjoy visiting, but I do so maybe once in 4 days not several times a day like I used to, and I don't feel the sense of community I once did. I used to play the spam games just for the fun of playing with my friends but now I don't see the point.

I read the news threads and skin JC.
Well at least some of us have started posting again.
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« Reply #12 on: August 10, 2007, 11:23:51 PM »

I would point to your problems, poper, as being issues with adapting to new surroundings and people. You need to open up more.

And I aint no new guy, sir! *scowls*
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« Reply #13 on: August 10, 2007, 11:26:18 PM »

Like Al said almost everyone is "new" to me, yes including you. I meant no disrespect by it, its just how it is. There are maybe 2-3 semi-active members that would remember when I joined, and my original username. I've seen the board go through multiple deaths, some more seemingly permanent than others but this current slow death is the worst by far.
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« Reply #14 on: August 10, 2007, 11:30:41 PM »

Aye, true words. The new site introduction affected the members, especially with the rules - I can understand that. I just think maybe some people around here should be more open and welcoming to the new guys (and i'm not including myself here).
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« Reply #15 on: August 10, 2007, 11:51:50 PM »

Edit: I don't want to be a part of this debate.
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« Reply #16 on: August 11, 2007, 12:25:38 AM »

My situation is very similar to Darkons in that for the first 3/4 years of my time on the Hall I was at Uni and had a lot more free time. Now I work 10-12 hours a day and some weekends, this means I can't spend as much time on the Hall. I still come on almost everyday and try and read all topics and post in ones I enjoy, but I can't cope by myself with all the Admin / Moderator work.

[!--quoteo--][div class=\'quotetop\']QUOTE[/div][div class=\'quotemain\'][!--quotec--]And staff who do more than pump cash into an endless funnel while overlooking the necessary evolution of the site.[/quote]

Without myself and Syrion paying $50 USD a month the site would have closed down 2+ years ago. I agree that we need to totally revamp the main page and upgrade the forum software (so we can allow new members, they are not allowed to join now due to Spam Bots).

So what should the Next Steps be to save the site we all care about?
  • More Staff? Any volunteers?
  • New Frontpage, anyone good building websites?
  • New forum software / upgrade to allow new members / ban bots
  • Remove spam topic restrictions?
  • Change some Hall rules?
Please suggest some constructive suggestions...
Thank you.
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« Reply #17 on: August 11, 2007, 12:39:29 AM »

Edit: I don't want to be a part of this debate.
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« Reply #18 on: August 11, 2007, 12:45:31 AM »

Seems a time to ask, when does a staff member that resigns get demoted to regular membership? I can't help but notice that MOD badge under Alrin's avatar, and he quit months ago...
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« Reply #19 on: August 11, 2007, 01:06:23 AM »

Moved Alrin into the Retired God group of members
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