Darkon, I'm going to be blunt but you ARE talking as if the entire population of Britain voted to leave and we all should shut up and deal with the consequences. Britain wants this, the British want that. That is simply not the case so don't tar us all with the same brush.
That's alright Myddrun, I have no objections to you being more direct. Dutch and all that.
It is a far more convenient method of communication than all the 'beating around the bush'-kind. You are right that my use of 'British' is incorrect here, I should have used 'British government' to prevent a different interpretation of what I meant. That said, you have got to admit that as a pro-EU, pro-integration Brit, you are the odd one out.
So far I can tell, the majority of British media are either hostile or indifferent towards the EU, including the BBC, and the general consensus among remain-politicians in the UK appears to be: market, market, market, benefits for us, little burden as possible, no further integration. The 'deal' Cameron got was a dragon of a turd that should never have seen the daylight. And he is supposed to be pro-EU... It is these kind of half-arsed, watered-down constructions that make the EU weak instead of strong.
How large is the group that truly wants further integration (who should all check the UEF
IMO)? Because I doubt it is large enough to make a difference. The UK is going Brexit now, and yes that has consequences, and yes that means you will have to deal with it.
And yeah, I hope it results in a fallout that has massive consequences. Not because I dislike British people in general, but because if not, nothing will change for the better. It will hopefully burn away all illusion that outside the EU was a great idea, and will make people think for once. Not only in the UK but also in the EU.
I'm going to seriously start paying attention to what Scotland's plans are now because I can see me favoring a move to "North of the Wall". (Pardon the phrase )
It is the most interesting part of Brexit: what will Northern Ireland, Scotland and Gibraltar do? All roads but one appear to lead to EU rules applied, but no influence over the rule-making, except for secession and re-applying to the EU.
YES! Absolutely yes. Seeing stuff that certain right wing groups like "Britain First" post on their facebook page is like reading Nazi propoganda material from the late 30's / early 40's yet they can't seem to see or accept the similarities.
Every country has or had fascists at some point. I'm not surprised at all.
Yah, they have been more than a few facepalm moments.
Speaking of facepalm moments, it appears that Boris and Nigel have run off together.