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Aruthas_Loyal_Servant

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« on: September 29, 2004, 05:47:35 PM »

Going a little off centre from the film thread I would like to know the ages of the main characters both at the start of Magician: Apprentice and at the start of Magician: Master

EG:

Pug/Tomas/Arutha/Lyam/Borric/Kulgan/Fannon/Gardan/Martin/Carline/Roland/Jimmy

Its been a while since i read the book so need to jog it. The reason being so I can give proper thought to the characters in the other thread.

Cheers in advance

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« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2004, 05:54:04 PM »

At the beginning:
Pug/Tomas = 14
Roland= 15/16
Carline= 14
Arutha= 17/18
Lyam= 21
Martin= 24
Gardan = 31
Jimmy= 13
Borric= 54
Kulgan= 60
Fannon= 49

That's all i know unfortunately.
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« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2004, 06:33:55 PM »

At the start of the Riftwar Jimmy would have probably only been about 3/4 not 13. The war lasts about 12 years right? and Arutha meets Jimmy near the end of the war.
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« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2004, 07:08:57 PM »

Was it 12 years? I thought it was 9?
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« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2004, 02:02:03 AM »

Actually he is only about 11, because in Silverthorn it states somewhere that he is around the age of 13/14. And thats a year after Magician, at the beginning of Magican (when Jimmy isnt in it) He would be like Coe said about 3 or 4, but when he is introduced he'd be about 11.
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« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2004, 02:05:16 AM »

Acording to RoaMP Jimmy was 14 when he met Arutha so i'm guessing this would be towards the end of the Riftwar
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« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2004, 07:08:51 AM »

This is a topic that's always frustrated the hell out of me, trying to mentally keep track of characters' ages in all the subsequent series. There used to be a handy-dandy website that charted this out, but I don't think it's working anymore. Keeping track of the time that's passed between series is a chore too.

So let's say X=year of Chapter 1 of Magician. Off the top of my head:

End of Magician=X+10
Silverthorn=X+11
Sethanon=X+12
Betrayal->Gods=X+22
Prince=X+31
Buccaneer=X+41
Queen=X+65

Can't remember how many years the Serpentwar spans and how many years after that Conclave starts at the moment.

Re: Jimmy's age, I can't remember if he's 12 or 13 when we first see him in Magician, meaning he'd be 14 or 15 in Silverthorn and 15 or 16 in Sethanon, and just a wee tyke of 3 or 4 at the very start of Magician.  :smile: Ah well, even he doesn't know his exact age, so my uncertainty's forgivable!

And here's a question for you all to ponder: say you were born a month or even a week or even less before Midsummer's. Would you be considered one year old when that Midsummer's rolled around, or would the one year old mark be put off until next year's Midsummer? It's such a flawed system!
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« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2004, 01:19:46 PM »

Nooooooo, the weird question! *dies*

I like your style Trenchard, you're promoted to first mate :lol:
The Serpentwar Saga goes for about 3 years methinks, at max. But then the Conclave, we decided before the data loss, is 30 years after SoaBC.

Conclave= X+95
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« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2004, 08:38:55 PM »

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Arutha= 17/18
Lyam= 21
Martin= 24


That's all i know unfortunately.
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Martin is older than 24 in Magician.  
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At the end of Magician when Lyam and Aurtha are arguing about Lyam stepping aside and letting Martin take the crown as the eldest ConDoin Arutha says'You may have inherited the burden of Father's sense of family honour,but it will fall to the rest of us to deal with the killing!  Heaven's mercy, Lyam, what do you think will happen if some heretofor nameless huntsman sits on the ConDoin throne simply because our father tumbled a pretty maid nearly fourty years ago! We shall have civil war!"


Now if the Riftwar was nine years long that would put Martain in his late 20's not his early 20's



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« Reply #9 on: September 30, 2004, 09:37:58 PM »

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At the beginning:
Pug/Tomas = 14
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I can't remember, on the day of the Choosing in chapter 2 of Magician, were the boys 12 going on 13 or 13 going on 14?
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« Reply #10 on: October 02, 2004, 05:46:22 AM »

Thank you, Sabre.  I was sure when I read 24 for Martin that that had to be too young.  24 seemed young for his ranking anyway.

Knowing that the latest series with Talon starts about 100 years after the start of Magician, I find it interesting that we, as the readers, have a much closer connection to the characters of that time frame than the people of Talon's age.  To them, men like Borric and Aruta would be like Roosevelt or Churchill to us, at best, maybe even more like Lincoln since I'm betting we have better records of what happend 100 years ago that the people of Talon's world would have of their history.  Not withstanding the fact the characters like Pug and Tomas still exist from that time.
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« Reply #11 on: October 02, 2004, 04:25:31 PM »

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Was it 12 years? I thought it was 9?
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The riftwar lasted 9 years, i think.

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« Reply #12 on: October 05, 2004, 03:47:06 PM »

Martin was 28 at the start of magician or atleast at the time the war started.
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« Reply #13 on: October 06, 2004, 12:53:41 PM »

I'm fairly bloody certain it is 9 years. I'll bet Coe's left testicle on it, in fact.
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« Reply #14 on: October 06, 2004, 04:10:59 PM »

yes it is that special time of year again where we give away each other's organs!
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« Reply #15 on: October 06, 2004, 05:42:43 PM »

good I need a liver!

and yes it is 9 years, although thats how long the war goes, so from actual start to end the book may be a few years longer
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« Reply #16 on: December 07, 2005, 01:01:15 PM »

Wow! how did u guys know all that. i dont recall REF giving the exact ages of some of those characters. why did yu want to know their ages?
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« Reply #17 on: December 12, 2005, 12:55:05 PM »

Actually, Jimmy was 13 when Arutha met him.

"As he reached for the door, a hand grabbed his cloak, and Arutha spun, his sword halfway out of its scabbard. A boy of about thirteen stood there, wearing a simple, oft-patched tunic and men's trousers cut off at the knees."
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« Reply #18 on: December 12, 2005, 05:43:06 PM »

I believe Nakor is well over 500 years old.  Pug I think is sittin on 120 yrs and Miranda has to be around 300 yrs give or take a decade
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« Reply #19 on: December 12, 2005, 08:56:21 PM »

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I believe Nakor is well over 500 years old.  Pug I think is sittin on 120 yrs and Miranda has to be around 300 yrs give or take a decade


And I still find Nakor attractive   *swoon*  
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