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RiverStar33

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« on: January 02, 2006, 01:24:42 PM »

Is anyone else sick of have Elvandar described every time someone new veiws it??? I know it's supposed to be a wonderfull place and nothing like any human has ever seen but it's described every time!!!  
**just wanted to have a whinge**
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« Reply #1 on: January 02, 2006, 01:29:33 PM »

ME TOO!
It was wonderful the first few times but now I just skip that bit when I see it.

Though im guessing its for the benefit of people who havent read the prior books, incase its their first experience of it.
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« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2006, 02:51:13 PM »

in a few cases it does get shortened. re-reading Serpentwar and and there's some there. early on though the waxing lyrical then using copy and paste for the next one was annoying
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« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2006, 09:12:14 AM »

It’s only a vague irritation, but he does seem to like to describe everything multiple times for the benefit of every new character that comes on the scene. At least he doesn’t keep retelling the story over and over again for new characters who want to know why something is happening/has happened.
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« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2006, 02:22:42 PM »

In comparison to other authors, Ray isnt nearly as bad when it comes to the copy paste thing. Robert Jordan is the worst offender Ive encountered. Im so sick of that god damned explanation of angreal, sa'angreal and ter' angreal!!!
« Last Edit: January 04, 2006, 02:23:52 PM by The Squire Of Forest Deep »
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« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2006, 02:06:03 PM »

Quote from: Briana
It’s only a vague irritation, but he does seem to like to describe everything multiple times for the benefit of every new character that comes on the scene. At least he doesn’t keep retelling the story over and over again for new characters who want to know why something is happening/has happened.
That is a good point!!!
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« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2006, 08:20:52 PM »

I love Elvandar and all the things there I think if we die we will live in a place similar to Elvandar.
 
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« Reply #7 on: January 08, 2006, 02:02:12 AM »

I speed read the Elvander intro bit the first time i read a book now. But it is interesting to see how REF describes it each time. He doesn't just copy and paste it in MS Word.
That's sort of why REFs books are easier to read than LOTR but still have similarities: like Elves, Dwarves Dragons etc. Tolkien had already defined the aesthetics of a lot of what REF is writing about. LOTR was quite a tedious read at times because he had to define the appearance of things for the very first time, but because it's already been done, REF can get straight to the point with his descriptives and I get a picture straight into my head even though REF might have written only a line.

The only thing REF really had to describe for the first time was Elvander. Also i spose that Elf place in the ice on Kelewan and a couple of the Gods' places
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« Reply #8 on: January 08, 2006, 07:55:35 AM »

Yeah, I agree. I'm currently reading ADaS and elvandar has come up both in Magician and Silverthorn. I looked back at the descript in M, and compared it to the one in Silverthorn, and it really isn't the same at all. Whereas the one in Magician completely described it, Silverthorn only had some bits of info. I'll post them both now.

Magician:

[!--quoteo--][div class=\'quotetop\']QUOTE[/div][div class=\'quotemain\'][!--quotec--]As night fell, they reached a giant clearing. Tomas stopped and stood rooted by the sight before him. Across the clearing a huge city of tree's rose upward. Gigantic trees, dwarfing any oaks imagined, stood together. They were linked by gracefully arching bridges of branches, flat across the tops, on which elves could be seen crossing from bole to bole. Tomas looked up and saw the trunks rise until they were lost in a sea of leaves and branches. The leaves were deep green, but here and there a tree with golden, silver, or even white foliage could be seen; sparkling with lights. A soft glow permeated the entire area, and Tomas wondered if it ever became truly dark here.[/quote]

Silverthorn

[!--quoteo--][div class=\'quotetop\']QUOTE[/div][div class=\'quotemain\'][!--quotec--]Giant trees of many colours rose high above the surrounding forest. In the afternoon light the topmost leaves seemed ablaze with colour where golden sunlight struck them. Even from this distance, figures could be seen along the high paths spanning the gaps between boles. Several of the giant trees were unique to this place, their leaves a dazzling silver, gold, or even white. As the day's shadows deepened, they could be seen to have a faint glow of their own. It was never truly dark in Elvandar.[/quote]


I'm not sure what it says in other books, maybe someone could enlighten us?
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« Reply #9 on: January 08, 2006, 06:45:32 PM »

Just to read again of Elvander make me think of how beautiful the place must be.  REF does it in the best to enlight you in a world that is so nice and beautiful you can't actaully know the beauty of elfs.  And what beautiful things surround them.
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« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2006, 09:22:43 AM »

Oh my

I'm into Silverthorn

and I just thought, right now,

there's gonna be GWALI !!!!!      
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« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2006, 07:02:21 PM »

I think Feist repeats the description of Elvandar to keep the image of beauty in all the readers heads, as well as reinforce his need to visiualize a place like that not found on yet on earth.  In fact I wouldn't be surprise if the description gives all readers a feeling of nastoglia because the place always looks new sort of like when your very young and everything looks new in young eyes.  Also a sense of longing to be surrounded by such beauty and a craving to be there.
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« Reply #12 on: January 10, 2006, 12:47:09 PM »

Elvandar Tarnished

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Elvandar was nice enough and i dont mind the descriptions all the time but i cant wait to hear the description of it in the next book eg: gutted forest full of crispy trees, riddled with dead gwalis(sorry dacilion) after an ambush by a mad magician.
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« Reply #13 on: January 10, 2006, 03:30:56 PM »

*mmm... crispy treats...*

Me too Althalus.
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