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VaanDiijk

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GB: The Isles or Roldem?
« on: May 27, 2007, 04:53:48 PM »

I have been wondering whether the Kingdom of the Isles was based on Britain or not? It has alway seemed that way to me but after reading Talon of the Silver Hawk it struck me that maybe Roldem is maybe based more upon Britain and the Kingdom is the U.S. I only ask because Kesh seems to be based vaguely on Africa and some of the names from Olasko seemed to me to be decidedly Russian or eastern european at least, and the Tsurani have a definite japanese influence, and I was wondering if Feist had used these nations as inspiration for some of his nations?
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GB: The Isles or Roldem?
« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2007, 07:50:28 PM »

Western Realm: England
Eastern Realm: France
Tsurani: Aztec/Japanese
Rodez: Spanish
Ran: Dutch
Crydee: American pioneers
Darkmoor: German

I think Roldem represents Russia in the Cold War, with the Eastern Kingdoms as vassalstates.
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GB: The Isles or Roldem?
« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2007, 11:35:56 PM »

I think kesh is more a reference to the old arabic world / persian empire than really africia (excpt north africa maybe)
« Last Edit: May 27, 2007, 11:37:54 PM by Dark Elf »
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GB: The Isles or Roldem?
« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2007, 03:55:58 AM »

Quote from: Dark Elf
I think kesh is more a reference to the old arabic world / persian empire than really africia (excpt north africa maybe)

May contain spoilers... discusses cultures from various books.

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Kesh is a myriad of cultures. The few of them that I've been able to identify include...

Truebloods = Ancient Egypt (scanty clothing, royal falcon, crocodiles, incestuous court relationships, short-worn hair).
Isalani = Perhaps Tibetans? Some far eastern-type culture anyway.
Ashuntai = Some cross between native American Indians (at least by their dress) and Mongolians.
Brijaners = A Viking/Norse culture
Jal-Pur Desertmen = A mix of Arabic/Bedouin culture.
Plus varied dark skinned races who were among those first subjegated by Kesh - the Keshian equivalent to Ethiopians/Kushites.

The leaders and rulers from Novindus, who speak a variant of ancient Kesh, seem to reflect Persia and India.

Not sure about Crydee = American Pioneers. They are a frontier people, certainly, but that's about where the similarities end.
Also, should mention Hadati, the Scottsmen of Midkemia.
« Last Edit: May 28, 2007, 04:03:36 AM by Margim »
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GB: The Isles or Roldem?
« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2007, 04:00:45 AM »

According to Ray . . .

EASTERN REALM OF THE KINGDOM:  17th Century France (culture) and King's English (language)
          Bas-Tyra:  French (culture/language)
          Rodez:  Spanish (culture/language)
          Ran:  Flemish/Dutch (culture/language)
WESTERN REALM OF THE KINGDOM:  17th Century England (culture)
          Krondor:  American English (language)
          Darkmoor:  Alsatian (culture) and German (language)
          Hadati hill clans:  highlanders and Apaches (culture) with some mix of Afrikaans/Boer (i.e., kraal)
          Far Coast:  frontier America or 19th Century Australia (culture) and Australian English (language)
FREE CITIES OF NATAL:  trading centers much like ancient eastern Mediterranean city-states (culture) and
          Boer/Dutch/Afrikaans (culture/language)
QUEG:  an island Rome, with nobles (imperial Roman culture; Latin language) and peasants (medieval Italian)
ROLDEM:  Poland (culture/language)
EMPIRE OF KESH:
     True Blood Keshians:  mix between Egyptian and Parthian (with a little Babylonian)
     Jal-Pur Desert:  Arabic
     Isalani:  China
     Brijaners:  essentially Vikings
     Ashunta:  essentially Cheyenne (with a very different attitude toward women)
NOVINDUS:  India (culture/language)
EMPIRE OF THE TSURANUANNI:  Japan during the Tokagawa Shogunate, China during the Sung Dynasty,    Korea (for some cultural window dressing), a touch of Zulu prior to the Zulu-Boer War, and a couple of     things cribbed from the Aztecs
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« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2007, 06:14:17 PM »

I think the men from Kinnoch in the Isles are closer to Scottish than the Hadati, they were also the inventors of whiskey so it says in Flight of the Nighthawks. I have also always pictured Crydee as being the Duchy of Cornwall which is only a few miles from where I currently sit, on the far west coast of England
« Last Edit: May 29, 2007, 06:16:52 PM by VaanDiijk »
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Re: GB: The Isles or Roldem?
« Reply #6 on: May 13, 2008, 03:46:46 PM »

the most things makes sence, but I don't see the Dutch culturethings in Ran ...??
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