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KENTOSI

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« on: November 08, 2004, 02:28:44 AM »

What's Fiest done?

I'm half way through Prince of the Blood, which I bought from Amazon coz the APE isn't here in Australia yet, and it's like I'm not reading an REF book!

OK, the story's good, the adventure's nicely written, etc.  But I bought this book thinking that I'll be reading a Fantasy-Fiction novel.  It's NOT! It's just normal Fiction.  Where are the elves? the drawves? the non-human things that made Magician so intriguing?

Does this novel continue this way? I read the Empire series, which was a good break from the genre of the riftwar series, but man.. I need fantasy again and REF's lettin me down.  He's really not encouraging me to read any more of this series with the way he's continuing :-(  

What's the next novel that actually does contain Fantasy elements?  When do I get to see elves or magic again?  Be honest guys.  Yes PoTB it is a good book, but it's not what I'm after.

THe other aussies in this forum will understand me when I say: NOT happy Jan!  :irritated:
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« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2004, 02:55:16 AM »

LOL

Mate you will pretty much have to wait untill the Serpant War saga to see the Elves and tomas again. You wont see much magic in PotB except for the Trciks that nakor does.(Which in my mind are worth it)

There is some magic in The Kings Bucaneer, though not of the variety and scope that you see in the Riftwar.

But trust me dude, both books are worth reading and dont lose faith in old Mr Feist. The Serpant War returns you to the the magic beings you yearn for ;)




lol i used to think it ws Not Happy Jen....i was rudley informed that i was wrong and that i was a fool :D Good Add that one :D
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« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2004, 02:57:24 AM »

Lots of Magic and Elves in Krondor the Betrayal and Tears of the Gods, on top of what Pugsy said.
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« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2004, 05:58:03 AM »

personaly i think prince of the blood and kings buccaneer are two of the best books because of how they are a bit more distant from deep magic stuff, sorta like george r r martin
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« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2004, 11:10:04 AM »

Damn.....

So looks like after I finish this book I'll be going straight into Shadow of a Dark Queen.  I know Buchaneer (spelling?) might be good, but I don't have the patience for pure fiction/adventure, sorry guys.

How does that next series compare to Riftwar?  Is it a similar style?

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« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2004, 11:25:55 AM »

You really should read Buccanear before the Serpantwar books due to it helping to lay the backgorund story of the upcoming books. Serpantwar has lots of action and adventure, but also lots of magic and god stuff.

Also did you read the Krondor books before POTB?
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« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2004, 05:59:49 PM »

Yes, it is absolutely ESSENTIAL that you read Buccaneer before going into the Serpentwar. Just about everything is set up there. The first half of the book especially hearkens back to the good ol' days of Magician. Freeport and the Sunset Isles are another highlight. Arr!
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« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2004, 06:25:12 PM »

in my opinion, not that it really matters, King's Buccaneer is the best book.  ive read it about 10 times.  it no doubt sets up everything that will happen in the Serpent War.  plus you get intorduced to an older Nicholas, who friggin rocks.
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« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2004, 09:56:35 PM »

That, and you get to giggle at how often they mention his club foot :lol:

I liked PotB a lot. It was definitely different, less epic, than the Riftwar was, but in a way just as exciting and definitely exotic. The descriptions of the Keshian cities are so well done that I can still close my eyes and see them in superb detail. And I first read it as a 13 year old kid, so the sexiness of it all was also very interesting  :jester:

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« Reply #9 on: November 09, 2004, 08:45:34 AM »

Arr matey!! Buccaneer is the good stuff. do read it! arr
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« Reply #10 on: November 09, 2004, 09:11:41 AM »

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I liked PotB a lot. It was definitely different, less epic, than the Riftwar was, but in a way just as exciting and definitely exotic. The descriptions of the Keshian cities are so well done that I can still close my eyes and see them in superb detail.
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for sure, i totally agree with shifty here and what toran said about it being 'different'..  i loved the politics just as much as the wizardry that was evident in the other books...  this is definitely one of my fav feist novels too.. =)
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« Reply #11 on: November 09, 2004, 10:13:54 AM »

I think you will like KB, it far more better then PoB, wich is imo one of the worst books, mostly because the riftwar rocks, and its kind off a cold shower to read about the son of Arutha gettingt lost in the dessert, after such great books as the riftwar saga!!
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« Reply #12 on: November 10, 2004, 01:32:03 PM »

I actually rather liked PotB and TKB, simply because of the change of pace and scenery. One of my problems with high fantasy is that every few years an apocalyptic, major war seems to come along. You very rarely hear of sinister stuff going on in the interim. A lot of groundwork is laid in these two books, so I think you should give them a chance.
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« Reply #13 on: November 10, 2004, 04:03:39 PM »

I agree partialy about Prince on the Blood. It had it's let downs I thought, but it give you a deeper insight into Kesh. Which I feel is necessary. There wasn't much action in POTB and that annoyed me a little. Pug, Tomas and Arutha don't feature much in the book which bothered me, and thus it took longer to get into the book.

The Serpentwar saga I liked alot, and if there was as much magic as there was in the Riftwar trilogy, then it probably would of been my favourite.

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I really liked it when Eric and the rest of the Eagles were taken under service by Calis. I really thought they were going to get hung, but then they were kept alive. lol Which was probably the biggest surprise from any of Feist's books. Though I thought it would of been a bit early for Eric to die.

Two people who could of been used alot more in Feist's books were Miranda and Nicholas. Miranda's character was very good, and she was only really used in one book. Also Feist's explanation for how she died sucked. Nicholas had his own role and played a big part in the books, but I would rather that he died on land rather than at the sea. Although that was where his character wanted to die.


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« Reply #14 on: November 10, 2004, 04:14:57 PM »

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Probably the most important outcome of PotB was the forging of the friendship between Erland (and consequently Borric) and the Emperor-to-be of Kesh, enabling an easing of relations between the two powers during the Serpentwar.
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« Reply #15 on: November 10, 2004, 05:11:17 PM »

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Miranda's character was very good, and she was only really used in one book. Also Feist's explanation for how she died sucked.

Great One I think you mean Jazharra? Cause Miranda is in about 7 Feist books and is not dead yet  :lol:
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« Reply #16 on: November 11, 2004, 01:23:23 AM »

hmm.... funny that

I'm not going to give away any spoilers, but the ending really sucks.

Anyone who has read the book will know what I mean
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« Reply #17 on: November 11, 2004, 04:05:37 AM »

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I'm not going to give away any spoilers, but the ending really sucks.

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Yes, there certainly is that.  Aside from that wicked twist, I thought POTB and KB were two of Feist's best works.  I suppose, when it comes down to it, I'm most interested in compelling stories and characters that I can feel some kind of connection to.  Reading Feist takes me to another world.  I must confess, it hadn't really occured to me until reading this thread that POTB doesn't have much "magic" in it.
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« Reply #18 on: November 11, 2004, 05:39:39 AM »

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« Reply #19 on: November 11, 2004, 12:31:53 PM »

Guys,

I finished reading the book.  Was an awesome story, which I never doubted it would be.  I thought that Fiest copied a lot of elements form the Empire series into Kesh.  Did anyone else feel this?  Mind you I am reading the APE edition.

I did like how we see more human races rather than the usual white, blonde/red hair types that are to typical to fantasy novels.  Also liked the character development of the Princes - very likable.

I never said that this was not a good book.  I did enjoy reading it (though I must confess the excitement grew more towards the second half of the book) but I don't think I'll be paying money for the next book, King's Bucaneer.  Yes, you guys have convinced me to read it, but I'll be borring the book from the library or something :p

I still miss the magic and elves form Magician.  That's what got me started reading REF books.  But alas, despite reading Books 1, 2 and 3 of the Empire series, in which there were like...  2 magic scenes, no elves, no dwarves and all humans (cept the Choja - they were cool :soldier: ), I've decided I will go ahead and read the next book b4 jumping to serpantwar.

Please tell me Bucaneer has magic?  Or at least we visit Pug, Tomas, or Macros or SOMEONE that'll bring that Riftwar feeling back?

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I gotta say I was disspointed that Pug's son (forgot his name) didn't go on becoming some cool animal-talking magician.  I had high expectations for him lol!
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