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« on: May 03, 2006, 07:46:58 PM »

Just wanted to know, is anyone else annoyed by Queg. They have pirates roaming across the bitter sea, they act like they own the bitter sea. Their imperial senate are probably pirates aswell. Also when kingdom nobles or whoever goes there are just taken away and used as slaves.
I'm just suprised that Kesh and the Isles don't just kick Queg' a**.
Your opinion on Queg?
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« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2006, 09:28:40 PM »

The Kings of the Isles and probably He Who is Kesh are being blackmained by the Quegan pirates so they don't attack.

No, I'm sure it is for trading reasons... remember some of the trading ventures throughout the series.
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« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2006, 11:00:52 AM »

Particularly when it comes to trade relations between the Free Cities and Queg.
Queg is a mostly volcanic island with little wood, and they yet have a large fleet.
Where does all this wood come from? Free Cities of course.
In return, they insure the independance of the FCs regarding the Kingdom.
If you remember a bit of history (mentioned 1st chapter of Apprentice...) Queg & FCs were once part of the Keshian province of Bosania so they still have close ties at the time of Apprentice.

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« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2006, 01:09:39 PM »

Queg rox man! Pirates rock! arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!
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« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2006, 10:08:10 AM »

Same as the island of Roldem in the east Queg serves as a military buffer,
if it should be attacked by either Kesh or the Kingdom it would receive
support from either of the opposing countries as they do not wish one
another to grow more as they are military rivals. Both countries know
however that to go to war would mean disaster to the winner and the
loser, and queg being a bunch of crafty pirates know this and exploit their
position of immunity.
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« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2006, 11:56:54 PM »

makes sense.
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« Reply #6 on: May 07, 2006, 01:03:53 PM »

It is pretty much the same how many smaller countries, say the Netherlands in the 18th century, survived. Each of the larger countries around it did not dare to attack because they new the other large countries would counter attack. Ofcourse, this strategy only works as long as you dont p**s off the larger countries to much. Cause if you do, they might unite and destroy you together. However, in the case of the kingdom and Kesh, this is as likely to happen as alrin giving up beer

 
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« Reply #7 on: May 07, 2006, 01:55:10 PM »

Yeh, but is was said somewhere that Queg take Kingdom nobles that set foot in their land and use them as slaves, so they probably do that to keshain purebloods im guessing. Isn't that enough to p**s them both off.
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« Reply #8 on: May 08, 2006, 12:27:44 AM »

i agree. What Althalus sed about the military buffer thing is true, but surely the kingdom can take some sort of action against Queg if they take Islesmen for slaves. If the Kingdom could create a "mutual understanding" with Kesh to arrange a Quegan ship sunk here and a
kidnapped Quegan noble there everytime either Kesh or the Kingdom finds out some of their civilians have been caught by slavers..
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« Reply #9 on: May 09, 2006, 02:26:29 PM »

We really haven't had news about Queg since the Serpentwar.
Their situation could have evolved in 50 years

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« Reply #10 on: May 10, 2006, 02:48:43 PM »

Did not Queg have the largest navy in the area? Atleast stronger then the kingdom fleet?

The KEshian fleet is alrgely pirates anyway, so they wont care to much.

 
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« Reply #11 on: November 20, 2006, 08:44:45 PM »

As far as i know, Queg has the largest navy in the area. That is why they havn't been conquered. The kingdom has a moderate amount of ships in the bittersea, and Kesh has some pirates but the main Keshian fleet lies somewhere else. What i was wondering about was this; why didn't Kesh attack Queg after their fleet wat destroyed by the fleet of the emerald queen? They had hardly any ships left, Kesh lost some ships but a fleet could have been brought from another region. And without much wood on the island and much unrest resulting from the war still raging; only a few ships would sail to Queg to bring wood.
Ksh wants the ancient borders restored and Queg is part op that. It was a great opportunity. Instead they attacked the kingdom without the opproval of the emperor. It does not make sense. Kesh should have taken the island back....
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« Reply #12 on: November 28, 2006, 06:18:02 PM »

I remember a long time ago a topic was started about the nations on midkemia and their "real world" counterparts.  What real nation on earth do you think the quegans most resemble?  By their style of dress, I would think something like greece or rome.
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« Reply #13 on: December 02, 2006, 01:21:34 PM »

Queg has a feel of Italy to me.  Not Romans though.  As far as it taking nobles as slaves, well nobles arrange to have chapparones on the RARE occasions they do go there.  Quegan royalty would have to be out of their mind to allow a situation like a noble being pressed into slavery go as it may start a conflict.
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After James and Roo's cunning manipulation of them to attack the fleet from Novindus I would think they have a severely diminished navy.

Also it was in Kesh's best interests to attack the Kingdom as they knew it was ripe for the taking.  Once that had control of both lands and they were proplerly tamed then the acquisition of Queg would be easy.  At most points Neither Kesh or the Kingdom would allow the other nation to annex Queg.
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« Reply #14 on: February 17, 2007, 06:59:45 PM »

Queg had the largest navy of Triagia, yes, and i agree; why the heck didnt Kesh took Queg back? One word: If they had sended an army large enough to take Queg, they didnt had enough soldiers left to guard Kesh itself. You know, those lands below Kesh are still not happy, and if Kesh had send an larger army, there will be war within Kesh. Also, we must not forget the magicians. And Kesh díd tried to took back Bosania (Dont know how to spell it in english), but Pug hold them back. If Kesh, instead of marching to Krondor, tried to defeat Queg, they would have: One: Troubles in southern Kesh, as i said before. And two: They wouldnt have a fleet large enough to defend Queg like Queg does. As someone said before: Without Quegs navy, Queg would be now a part of the Kingdom of the Islands or Great-Kesh.
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« Reply #15 on: February 18, 2007, 12:13:09 AM »

I think Queg is not much more difference than what Swiss (or the netherlands before adolf invaded it)is, is it not nice to have a buffer zone in the world...

I think Queg is not much more difference than what Swiss (or the netherlands before adolf invaded it)is, is it not nice to have a buffer zone in the world...
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« Reply #16 on: February 18, 2007, 11:05:23 AM »

Queg simply exists because the two super powers on the continent are too busy with other things to bother with Queg and they profit from it as well. Unless Queg would do something really stupid. The moment that balance is gone, Queg will have a serious problem as the benefits for having them around will quickly disappear.

At least that's how I see it.
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