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seandog

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Question about the Valheru, the gods and the Chaos wars
« on: July 12, 2006, 01:58:44 PM »

From what I understand the valheru could basically travel to any planet they wanted (and plunder pillage etc...). The new gods took over midkemia, which upset the valheru so they decided to go to war against them, ie the chaos wars.

My question is, why was it only the midkemian gods that they went to war with and not the gods of all the other planets that they could travel to. What was so special about them?

Secondly are there different gods for every different planet, or are the gods just named differently on each one.
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Question about the Valheru, the gods and the Chaos wars
« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2006, 02:14:02 PM »

I think I can answer your first question. So here goes

The Valheru went to war with the gods of midkemia because I think they thought they killed the valheru's two gods Order and Chaos. Also I think the Valheru saw the god of midkemia as a threat.

Also if you reread magician where pug is on the tower he saw the beginning of kelewan and is says something like

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I think it says something like twenty powerful beings came through the rift and soared into the heavens and became the gods. Or something like that.

magician (some of what i remember).
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Question about the Valheru, the gods and the Chaos wars
« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2006, 02:39:41 PM »

I'm not getting into the whole "why did the Chaos Wars occur" debate again, but I'll say this much...

The reason the Valheru took particular pains to destroy the Midkemian gods is because Midkemia was their homeworld.
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Question about the Valheru, the gods and the Chaos wars
« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2006, 12:35:08 AM »

what you must also understand is that the Chaos War was only another evil plot by the Nameless One. No one can understand why he did this, he is mad and he acts unrationally due to his madness. He orchastrated the war to assist him in gettin rid of the other Gods to create unbalance
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Question about the Valheru, the gods and the Chaos wars
« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2006, 06:06:02 AM »

which of the book have the most information about the chaos wars
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Question about the Valheru, the gods and the Chaos wars
« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2006, 06:14:00 AM »

Dakness at Sethanon, Rage of a Demon King, Shards of a Broken Crown.
You might find some additional info in Exile's Return and Flight of the Night Hawks too.
Mainly the first three I mentioned though.
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Question about the Valheru, the gods and the Chaos wars
« Reply #6 on: July 13, 2006, 06:15:38 AM »

Quote from: Alrin
Dakness at Sethanon, Rage of a Demon King, Shards of a Broken Crown.
You might find some additional info in Exile's Return and Flight of the Night Hawks too.
Mainly the first three I mentioned though.
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« Reply #7 on: July 13, 2006, 09:17:31 PM »

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yeah the valheru feared that the gods would turn their power against them once they stopped contesting with each other. this fear was put in draken korin by nalar who influenced him to create teh lifestone etc
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Question about the Valheru, the gods and the Chaos wars
« Reply #8 on: July 20, 2006, 12:40:48 PM »

I'm pretty sure that every world has it's own set of gods.  

In Krondor: The Betrayal if you remember...
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Pug (and later Gorath and Owyn) go to another planet, where the Pedastals, or big Totems or statues, whatever they are, each one represent a god of the planet, when Owyn touches the stone he feels the gods pressence, or he feels nothing, indicating the god is dead.
- Krondor: the Betrayal spoiler

I'm guessing that's how every planet works, if that answers your question? I just love talking about Feist.


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« Reply #9 on: July 20, 2006, 02:34:36 PM »

That's what i love about feist's books i think his explanations about god or god's sounds quite plausable when put into context.
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Question about the Valheru, the gods and the Chaos wars
« Reply #10 on: September 19, 2006, 10:12:42 PM »

Here's what I understand about the nature of the Gods from what I've read. spoiler?? On midkemia they essentially have the same gods even though they are on different continents. Same Gods on Novindus as on Triagia, different names. You would logically think that since the Gods exist only when people believe in them, different planets, ergo different people, would believe in different Gods. Since human nature is basically the same these different Gods would have different names and different details, but essentially the same gods. God of good, evil, nature, sea, etc.

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In his latest book, however, we learn that spoiler ** although the Gods from different planets who reside on our plane are the same, there are Gods from different planes, while essentially Gods of good, evil, nature, sea, etc. , are fundamentally different as a result of living on those different planes. Nalar, my dog's name by the way, is our God of evil, and as awful as he is is nothing compared to the "evil" god from the first level of hell where the dasati reside. Whereas the Chaos wars were gods against valheru, the dark war will consist of the Dasati God of evil vs. "our" remaining Gods, Macros, and the Conclave.
- Into  a Dark Realm spoiler

Please point out my errors as I hate to live life through lies...
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