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gangsta4life83

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« on: October 30, 2005, 12:00:07 AM »

Hi, i was just wondering if anybody knows what type of magic Sidi uses. Isit the lesser path or the greather path. Or perhaps its neither and he follows a type of dark magic that is granted to him by Nalar. However he is on midkemia and i thought that only the lesser path magic was able to be utilized on that planet.

Any input would be great.
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« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2005, 02:06:02 AM »

Hmm. Well, where to begin?...

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Obviously it's not only Lesser Path magic that can be used on Midkemia. Pug is a practitioner of the Greater Path, as are several other magicians mentioned throughout the books. As for Sidi, well, Lesser Path magic has always been described as requiring a focus of some kind, a device such as a scroll or globe, etc, to perform spells. Sidi has shown that he needs no such aid, and therefore one could assume he's a Greater Path magician. It's also been mentioned that he practices necromancy, so I guess one could call him a Necromancer as well.
- Sidi Spoilers/Krondor the Assassins/Tear of the Gods/Jimmy the Hand/Exile's Return/Flight of the Night Hawks... (yeah, I think that just about covers them all) ... oh, and King of Foxes (thx Mags)
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« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2005, 01:23:32 PM »

So then what would you say necromancy was. Surely thats a type of magic: either lesser path or greater path. I know that there is a dark side to the lesser path magic but is there a dark side to the greater path magic as well?
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« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2005, 03:27:29 PM »

A evvil side of the greater path...mmm.
I think you can;t speak of an evil side it's more how you use it that makes it evil or good.
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« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2005, 05:58:53 PM »

Nakor said once i think in RoaDK
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He said something to Dominique the abbot of Sarth about the magicians Pug, Miranda Marcros about them thinking about paths of magic to much, maybe Sidi is a evil Nakor?
Rage of a Demon King spoiler and Sidi spoiler.

Do you see what i mean? I'm probably way off though
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« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2005, 07:54:55 PM »

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pug isn't a greater path magician, he isnt restricted by paths, that was stated somewhere in magician I think wait no it was either silverthorn or darkness at sethanon when he uses lesser path magic to escape his imprisonment on kelewan

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« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2005, 08:24:38 PM »

Ash makes a good point. What I should have said in my post was that Pug was a practitioner of the greater path.
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Before he expanded his knowledge to include many paths.
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« Reply #7 on: October 30, 2005, 08:28:52 PM »

I cant remember whether pug stated whether Sidi was an easy oponent or not. can any1 tell me. Plus y is it that we never get to see the confronatation between the two?
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« Reply #8 on: October 30, 2005, 09:33:37 PM »

NONE But I think something else maybe we willread about it in the future
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« Reply #9 on: October 31, 2005, 01:21:10 AM »

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We do get to see a confrontation between the two, it's ever so grand.

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« Reply #10 on: October 31, 2005, 01:36:57 AM »

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I cant remember whether pug stated whether Sidi was an easy oponent or not. can any1 tell me. Plus y is it that we never get to see the confronatation between the two?
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Spoiler for Umm, ~shrugs~ Serpentwar and Conclave of Shadows...
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Pug said that he faced a Magician of great strength, so that would say that he wasnt a easy opponent.
Serpentwar and Conclave of Shadows Spoiler...
But of course, we have not read about that yet because of Issues with Lawyers and wat not over the rights of the Game's story and Rays writing it.
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« Reply #11 on: October 31, 2005, 01:44:41 AM »

gangsta have you read the Conclave series or the SerperntWar Saga yet?
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« Reply #12 on: October 31, 2005, 02:25:01 PM »

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« Reply #13 on: November 11, 2005, 02:19:16 PM »

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In the Riftwar Legacy and Return To Krondor, I got a strong impression that Sidi's magic was priestly. I reckon he started out as a really powerful priest (because most priestly magic we've seen is quite simple, but we know Nalar is a really powerful god), with powers obviously granted by Nalar. His early magic always seemed very cult-like, with sacrifices, demons and necromancy. He may have expanded to other so called "paths" later, but I reckon he started out a priest. He does indeed seem to be the evil opposite of Nakor, his magic is simple, but powerful. I'm quite sure he's older than Pug, because he seems to have featured in Jimmy the Hand, and he was clearly far more adept at magic than Pug by then.

Riftwar Legacy and Serpentwar Saga Spoilers...
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« Reply #14 on: November 11, 2005, 03:40:21 PM »

Yep, that's totally true. I've never be sure whether or not Sidi is actually Varen.
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« Reply #15 on: November 11, 2005, 04:09:35 PM »

I am pretty sure Ray has stated this before that they are the same person.
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« Reply #16 on: November 11, 2005, 05:03:02 PM »

Yeah probably...plus all you seem to think so as well. So i've accepted it, but it still plucks away at me. If Ray ever finished the Krondor series then things might be a little clearer maybe, at least for me. :)
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« Reply #17 on: November 12, 2005, 04:31:05 AM »

It still plucks away at you?...

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Pug calls Varen "Sidi" in FotN.
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« Reply #18 on: November 12, 2005, 06:24:46 AM »

And!!!
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Leso goes "that's a name I havent been called in awhile".

Well something around those lines, but he does acknowledge that he indeed was Sidi

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« Reply #19 on: November 12, 2005, 01:10:30 PM »

Doh...I forgot about that bit.

*thinks re-reading is a good idea now*
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