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lysle rigger

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« on: April 06, 2005, 07:48:47 PM »

Im just re reading Silverthorn after a few years of REF's later works.

I have yet to finish the book and wont post anything that could be considered a spoiler but it seems to me that there is a lot more comedy in this book than any of the others. Oh yes Nakor can break the tension when looking for fruit but a lot of Jimmys comments and most notebly actions sort of remind me of Benny Hill and the sort of slapstick that he performed.

Ok now you can blast me for wasting your time in replying lol.
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« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2005, 08:19:07 PM »

I agree (I've just finished re-reading Silverthorn  :elfgirl_smile: )

I liked the "Keshian court etiquette" scene near the beginning with Lyam trying not to laugh, and "How many people can boast they saved the Prince of Krondor by goosing a demon?" bit.
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« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2005, 08:50:52 PM »

I don't know....i've always found the "comedy" in fantasy novels amusing at best.  Mostly I find it corny to be honest.
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« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2005, 12:34:46 AM »

Different book, but I liked in rise of a merchant prince with the bit about Queg,
"we are a small nation surrounded on all sides by enemies" be an ongoing excuse by Quegans
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« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2005, 01:30:18 AM »

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Different book, but I liked in rise of a merchant prince with the bit about Queg,
"we are a small nation surrounded on all sides by enemies" be an ongoing excuse by Quegans
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I love that line! Me and my friend use it all the time while playing war/strategy games.  :lol:
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« Reply #5 on: April 07, 2005, 11:38:15 AM »

I've always found Feist's comedy great, like in all books. I always love Amos though, funniest man ever :lol:
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« Reply #6 on: April 07, 2005, 12:24:03 PM »

Fantasy books wouldn't be the same without comedy because it wouldn't portray life.
Even in the darkest days there always something that will make you laugh.
I've read a lot of fantasy books an they are always the same, when warriors are under siege and they know they are going to die, they just laugh at anything. It's either that or cry. I would prefer to laugh.
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« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2005, 02:05:28 PM »

I have read a lot of sci-fi/fantasy books, but the thing that attracts me to them is not humor. After reading Silverthorn I didn't really think that it was an amusing book. I think that the 'humor' and 'jokes' used aren't really that funny.
Don't get me wrong I love the books, just not this aspect.
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« Reply #8 on: April 13, 2005, 02:56:04 PM »

Well there's obviously a difference in humour in the sense of a one line gag and a particular scene in the book being funny.

I think there are certainly more overtly funny quips in the Riftwar books than any of the other series being made from the primary characters Arutha, Martin, Laurie etc but I wouldn't say they were "funny books".

I've noticed the same thing reading Eddings' Tamuli series. He seems to have a fasination of ending every scene with a one line gag that I'm trying to ignore at the moment.

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« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2005, 09:40:52 AM »

Two Feist books get my vote as best comedies:
1. Krondor: The betrayal....the magician Patrus is hilarious....
2. Tear of the Gods.....this is the first time we get a realistic glimpse of what would happen if someone totally unsuitable, such as an accountant or Lawyer, is in suddenly got dropped into a a Feist adventure....Kendaric, the wrecker's guildsman.
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« Reply #10 on: April 17, 2005, 11:44:17 AM »

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Two Feist books get my vote as best comedies:
1. Krondor: The betrayal....the magician Patrus is hilarious....
2. Tear of the Gods.....this is the first time we get a realistic glimpse of what would happen if someone totally unsuitable, such as an accountant or Lawyer, is in suddenly got dropped into a a Feist adventure....Kendaric, the wrecker's guildsman.
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I completely agree with you!  

Silverthorn was funny, there is no doubting that.  As was A Darkness at Sethanon in its own way, but those two books you mentioned... great stuff.

Betrayal was just brilliant to for Patrus and for James and Locky and the ‘An “oversight” by an “inexperienced commander”’ type of humour.  

Tear of the Gods... well, it was one of the first times you had a completely inapt character right in the thick of things, and James seriously seemed like he was ready to just give up.  I remember one quote he had, muttering about how nice it would be for everything to just go smoothly for once.  It was that really dry, ironic sort of humor which made that book so good.
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« Reply #11 on: April 23, 2005, 04:20:29 PM »

I have to say that I also don't really find "fantasy humour" incredably amusing however of all the fantasy books I have read Fiest's humour is funnyier. IMO this is probably thanks to Jimmy and Amos just off the top of my head.
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« Reply #12 on: April 23, 2005, 07:15:45 PM »

I like the long insults that can be read in Honoured Enemy. I think that they give the situation a brighter look and they give the reader a feeling of reality......well, that´s what I think!
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« Reply #13 on: April 24, 2005, 06:56:14 AM »

Actually, I thought Silverthorn was quiet funny, especially when an expected someone keeps coming back to join the travel group and all the little amusing comments made.  I found most of the books to be like that, and I felt like going "awwww" when i felt sad for a certain someone's loss/ accident and it was a touching story indeed, including funny. Most of the story makes humor to make light of the situation, as feist so frequently says, but it's these little witty comments that i like
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« Reply #14 on: April 24, 2005, 08:57:44 AM »

Feist humor is the bomb. I seem to find some of the most non-funny things humorous though. Like in in Magician, when they are trying to fond out the motive of the Tsurani, and Meecham just blurts out "Metal" i thought that was funny.
Gotta love Patrus though, very funny fellow.
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« Reply #15 on: June 04, 2005, 01:22:31 AM »

the riftwar saga does has funny parts in it, but i think the serpentwar bests it in humor.
the most funny thing about the serpent war is nakor. need i say more?
will think up more to add to this... oh well
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« Reply #16 on: June 04, 2005, 08:50:36 AM »

Yeah books would be completely different if they had no commedy in them at all. It makes it more realistic, and so much more great to read. Silverthorn is a very good book with alot of funny sections in it. Amos is a great Character in the books and i also love in Tear of the Gods how Jimmy and Jazhara always give crap to Brother Solon's accent, classic. and i agree with ButtslappingPirate about Kendarick, he is a great in that book. But i think Comedy in Rays books has seriously dropped of the late, and i wish for more great humour he has to offer us.
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« Reply #17 on: June 06, 2005, 04:14:09 PM »

I only just finished reading Silverthorn for the first time a few weeks ago and to be honest i must have missed the comedy. not because it wasnt funny but because i was so involved in the great story i dont think i found the time to say "hey that was rather ammusing". i might have to re-read it and maybe then i will be able to appreciate the comicalness.
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« Reply #18 on: June 06, 2005, 05:24:28 PM »

There are 2 scenes that I remember as being very funny. The first is at the end of A Darkness at Sethanon where
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I believe ?Amos? sails of with the royal ship and ?Arutha? yells after him that he can have it. And ofcourse Amos blames him for taking all the fun out of life.


The second scene is classic imo. It's when Miranda meets Macros for the first time.
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We've been guessing at the fact that Macros might be her father. We find out that this is the case, but immediately we find out that the Emerald Queen is her mother 'mother is trying to destroy the world'.
I found that simply hillarious.

Feist's humour is mostly situational comedy I guess. It is almost impossible to explain to somebody why a moment is so funny, it is only funny because of what happened in the past 100 pages or so. I found that very good in the first few of his books.
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