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bryanc78

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Re: At the Gates of Darkness Thread
« Reply #40 on: April 10, 2010, 11:37:58 PM »

Just finished it and like his last few books, thought it was nothing special.  Entertaining and I finished it very quickly, but no where near as good as his older stuff.

He's just on autopilot now, running out of ideas and characters and probably can't wait till he finish it all
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« Reply #41 on: April 11, 2010, 03:44:04 AM »

Upsetting to hear so many say the same thing. Very hard to ignore, yet in a recent interview Ray said that while some were claiming he hadn't written anything good since ____ there were still those that claimed his newest books were the best they've ever read by him. So, some must be enjoying it...
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« Reply #42 on: April 11, 2010, 04:00:37 AM »

He says that in every interview. He said the exact same thing half a decade ago in one of our own interviews.

HoW - While your fan's have enjoyed your last several novels, the general consensus is that they have not lived up to the epic quality of the Riftwar and Serpentwar sagas. Will the Darkwar series see a return to that level of storytelling that your fan's are yearning for?

REF - [...]I don't really think much about what the fans like or dislike because for every letter I get that says,"You've never written anything as good as Magician," I get one that says, "Your new  book  is your best ever."  So, who should I listen to?  No one but myself,  is my answer.
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« Reply #43 on: April 11, 2010, 04:36:42 AM »

Aye, that's true. I also recall talk being that the Darkwar would see the return to a similar 'epic' writing style that we was familiar to his earlier works. Oh well, same short books, nothing changes.

I'll wait for the paperback. I am not alone.
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« Reply #44 on: April 12, 2010, 02:58:16 AM »

I think he mentioned in an interview that RaDL and AtGoD were supposed to be more of a lead up to the last series, bringing in a new character (or characters) which would allow people to be reintroduced to all the major characters and the story elements that have led up to the final rift war.  In that sense, I'd easily say it's succeeded as parts of the story brought us as far back as the first chapter of Magician... But then again, I still feel like Magnus is a bit of a hollow character.  I seem to recall he got his heart broken and I guess he's now suffering a lot of grief like Pug, but... well I guess we've just never really had the story told with his perspective and thoughts like we've had from the others.  But we've had hints along the way that he's someone significant considering how he's dealt with the Gods.

*meh* I recall Ray mentioning that the 4th riftwar was short but bloody, it was certainly short but unless we count the Star Elves' off-world losses, it certainly didn't seem that bloody for Midkemia (particularly the last battle).

Heck, I'm looking forward to the last series where Ray can finally stop dropping hints and suggestions and really start revealing what its all lead up to over the years of writing.
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Re: At the Gates of Darkness Thread
« Reply #45 on: April 12, 2010, 03:16:40 AM »

but... well I guess we've just never really had the story told with his perspective and thoughts like we've had from the others. 
I don't think Ray is a convincing enough write to make many people believe in that, even if he were to write and release it. Not these days.

I'm also looking forward to the end, to see how things unravel. Also, I'm interested in seeing what Ray writes after he's completed the entire series.
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« Reply #46 on: April 12, 2010, 04:16:48 AM »

Read At The Gates of Darkness on my Amazon Kindle this past week.  It's much like Ray's other novel's the past decade and more.  Not terrible, but not epic like his first several stories, and I think that is part of the problem.  The Riftwar and Serpentwar saga's were so epic.  Prince of the Blood, and The King's Bucaneer were also very good.  Then something changed in Ray's life.  His divorce?  His ongoing depression?  Everything to me, starting with the Krondor series, seems to be smaller tales, building up to the final saga in the riftwar cycle.  Hopefully the "Chaos War" saga lives up to his earlier works.
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« Reply #47 on: July 28, 2010, 12:48:06 PM »

"Upsetting to hear so many say the same thing. Very hard to ignore, yet in a recent interview Ray said that while some were claiming he hadn't written anything good since ____ there were still those that claimed his newest books were the best they've ever read by him. So, some must be enjoying it..."

Or he's lying.

I did enjoy the the last book though, it partially restored my faith that he can go back to his best for the last series
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« Reply #48 on: October 27, 2010, 02:10:53 PM »

My re-read of this story has raised the level of my appreciation.  There are still too many subplots left unresolved.  But I have come to expect that from the recent Feist novels.  One mystery that I expect to be revealed in the next book:
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During the final confrontation, Belasco tried to reveal Dahun's true purpose for trying to enter Midkemia.  Dahun managed to somehow force Belasco to remain silent on that point.  My guess is that the evil forces (Demons, Dread, etc.) need to acquire or devour or destroy something on Midkemia to greatly increase their powers and conquer the forces of Good.  I am guessing that it has something to do with the Sun Elves and that whole mystery with the 'Quor' introduced in Wrath of a Mad God.  This is only a guess on my part, obviously.
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